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OptikaNET
Time Traveller
United Kingdom
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Posted - 10 May 2009 : 21:09:37
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I have faith in the talents of fans.
Kind Regards
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Richard Bignell
Time Traveller
United Kingdom
721 Posts |
 Posted - 10 May 2009 : 21:13:09
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Originally posted by Pip
I think Culshaw works in small doses (although I wasn't impressed with the bits from Pyramids)
To be fair, he only did one line, and that was only because he was asked off the cuff if he'd do it, then given a microphone by Steve at on the AV desk at one of the Panopticon and it was recorded there and then!
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Pip
Time Traveller
Canada
704 Posts |
Posted - 10 May 2009 : 21:35:02
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Originally posted by Richard Bignell
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Originally posted by Pip
I think Culshaw works in small doses (although I wasn't impressed with the bits from Pyramids)
To be fair, he only did one line, and that was only because he was asked off the cuff if he'd do it, then given a microphone by Steve at on the AV desk at one of the Panopticon and it was recorded there and then!
Richard
At the same time, wasn't Pyramids one of those stories done during the period where Tom was unavailable as he was in France, so Culshaw (or some other soundalike) would have been the only option to reconstruct the missing scene?
Still, although I'm not impressed with the outcome, it's still good they included some attempt at trying to remake the scene... |
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Ian Levine
The Consultant
United Kingdom
5917 Posts |
Posted - 10 May 2009 : 21:48:23
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Originally posted by Pip
They might work for a fan recon (where the standards are lower), but I still think that creating a whole soundtrack for a fan recon is going to be a much larger challenge than Nick/Xylok seems to think it is, and it's certainly going to be extraordinarily hard, if not impossible, to pull off for a professional DVD.
Not for someone who's been an award winning record producer for thirty four years. |
http://www.myspace.com/ian_levine
"There will always be 108 missing episodes"
But if they animate them like those two "Invasion" episodes, then it won't feel NEARLY as bad. |
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Makkabee
Seasoned Time Traveller
2973 Posts |
Posted - 11 May 2009 : 01:15:27
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| If you put it together Ian, I'd certainly request/buy a copy (depending on whether it's a sanctioned or unsanctioned project, obviously). |
Risus est telum potentissimum contra tyrannem. Nullus dictator cum exercitibus omnibus ridiculum vulgi longe resistare potest. |
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chap with wings
Seasoned Time Traveller
United Kingdom
4035 Posts |
Posted - 11 May 2009 : 12:12:57
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Originally posted by Makkabee
If you put it together Ian, I'd certainly request/buy a copy (depending on whether it's a sanctioned or unsanctioned project, obviously).
put me down for one as well. |
Self appointed President Elect of the "RTD MING MONG SQUAD"
"Saturday teatimes on BBC1 have seen better days. Robin Hood is dead and Doctor Who is about to transform into a funny-looking teenager dressed as a history professor." - Stuart Heritage, The Guardian 16/09/2009
http://www.myspace.com/edwatkinson
http://www.myspace.com/northwalesdoctorwhogroup |
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Another Ian
Time Traveller
United Kingdom
798 Posts |
Posted - 11 May 2009 : 14:22:37
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Given their luck Loose Cannon had with some actors for the Recon interviews and extras it's quite possible actors like Daniel Hill or Victoria Burgoyne might even be happy to voice their missing lines, if asked nicely. It might be a problem if the Beeb ever approached them after though. or if an actor died before an official effort happened would they then approach the fan endeavour?
I suppose another issue for a fan version might be Douglas Adam's copyright. Do his estate pay more attention than others? |
Shove that in your canon. |
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spikeandjezebel
Time Traveller
USA
442 Posts |
Posted - 11 May 2009 : 22:17:01
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| What's all this about Jon Culshaw and Pyramids of Mars? I have the DVD, but don't recall anything like this on it... |
My dear, nobody could be as stupid as he seems. |
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Pip
Time Traveller
Canada
704 Posts |
Posted - 11 May 2009 : 23:16:20
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| On one of the featurettes, they reference a deleted scene which was never filmed, and get Culshaw and Sladen to re-enact it as the Doctor and Sarah. |
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Richard Bignell
Time Traveller
United Kingdom
721 Posts |
Posted - 12 May 2009 : 08:24:31
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Originally posted by spikeandjezebel
What's all this about Jon Culshaw and Pyramids of Mars? I have the DVD, but don't recall anything like this on it...
It's partway through the Now & Then. Originally, Michael Sheard had just read the couple of lines of missing dialogue (which is how I scripted it), but we were at PanoptiCon a few weeks before the asset delivery date, so Steve grabbed hold of Jon Culshaw and Lis Sladen whilst they were there and got them to record the lines.
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DaveCrichton
Newbie
United Kingdom
19 Posts |
Posted - 12 May 2009 : 11:37:11
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Hi Richard, out of curiosity, could you tell me which parts of the 1992 Shada bits were reconstructed elements? Aside from the obvious stills, I'm curious to know how many of the model sequences are original and which ones were added? I know some things were done at the time of recording and have always wondered how many bits were added in 92.
Cheers
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Richard Bignell
Time Traveller
United Kingdom
721 Posts |
Posted - 12 May 2009 : 13:50:10
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As far as I can recall Dave, the model work of the space station and its destruction was all as shot back in 1979, as was the shots of Chronotis' study in the vortex. The other effects involving Shada itself, Skagra's ship, the Kraag Carrier Ship etc. were all created for the VHS from existing photographs.
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Ian Levine
The Consultant
United Kingdom
5917 Posts |
Posted - 12 May 2009 : 17:43:43
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Originally posted by Richard Bignell
As far as I can recall Dave, the model work of the space station and its destruction was all as shot back in 1979, as was the shots of Chronotis' study in the vortex. The other effects involving Shada itself, Skagra's ship, the Kraag Carrier Ship etc. were all created for the VHS from existing photographs.
Richard
Ah.
Finally, FINALLY, i can prove you wrong.
Kevin Davies and Steven Cambden created them for the version that I and Keith Barnfather did in 1984 to show at Panopticon.
Then somehow JNT got hold of the film bits and reused them. |
http://www.myspace.com/ian_levine
"There will always be 108 missing episodes"
But if they animate them like those two "Invasion" episodes, then it won't feel NEARLY as bad. |
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RobW
Seasoned Time Traveller
United Kingdom
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Richard Bignell
Time Traveller
United Kingdom
721 Posts |
Posted - 12 May 2009 : 20:54:08
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Originally posted by Ian Levine
Ah.
Finally, FINALLY, i can prove you wrong.
Big smegging deal.
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Ian Levine
The Consultant
United Kingdom
5917 Posts |
Posted - 12 May 2009 : 22:25:23
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Originally posted by Richard Bignell
Big smegging deal.
Richard
Oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh
Temper, temper |
http://www.myspace.com/ian_levine
"There will always be 108 missing episodes"
But if they animate them like those two "Invasion" episodes, then it won't feel NEARLY as bad. |
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chap with wings
Seasoned Time Traveller
United Kingdom
4035 Posts |
Posted - 12 May 2009 : 22:36:26
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Question for you Mr Levine:
How does the above mentioned recon you were involved in differ from the BBC release and is your available to view anywhere? |
Self appointed President Elect of the "RTD MING MONG SQUAD"
"Saturday teatimes on BBC1 have seen better days. Robin Hood is dead and Doctor Who is about to transform into a funny-looking teenager dressed as a history professor." - Stuart Heritage, The Guardian 16/09/2009
http://www.myspace.com/edwatkinson
http://www.myspace.com/northwalesdoctorwhogroup |
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Ian Levine
The Consultant
United Kingdom
5917 Posts |
Posted - 13 May 2009 : 00:11:04
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Originally posted by chap with wings
Question for you Mr Levine:
How does the above mentioned recon you were involved in differ from the BBC release and is your available to view anywhere?
A - yes
B - no |
http://www.myspace.com/ian_levine
"There will always be 108 missing episodes"
But if they animate them like those two "Invasion" episodes, then it won't feel NEARLY as bad. |
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magneticfields
Time Traveller
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Posted - 13 May 2009 : 19:50:31
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Originally posted by Ian Levine
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Originally posted by chap with wings
Question for you Mr Levine:
How does the above mentioned recon you were involved in differ from the BBC release and is your available to view anywhere?
A - yes
B - no
Somewhere in my loft I still have a VHS copy of this recon. IIRC the missing scenes were represented by text lifted from a DWM archive and typed onto a Commodore 64. This was the first pirate tape I ever acquired. I obtained my copy in 1984 for £5 from a certain Blackpool hoaxer who used to advertise in the Exchange & Mart (is that publication still going?). |
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DaveCrichton
Newbie
United Kingdom
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Posted - 14 May 2009 : 12:58:33
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Thanks, does anyone know if the CSO footage was done at the time. Does the blue screen footage exist raw?
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Sontaran
Time Traveller
United Kingdom
910 Posts |
Posted - 15 May 2009 : 11:06:41
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Originally posted by DaveCrichton
Thanks, does anyone know if the CSO footage was done at the time. Does the blue screen footage exist raw?
Dave
From what I remember of the Krargs, the effect of the fire on their bodies were keyed in during the studio recording.
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xylok b
Seasoned Time Traveller
United Kingdom
1074 Posts |
Posted - 15 May 2009 : 18:02:32
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My destiny is in the stars, and to see the day when all 108 missing eps of Doctor Who and Shada are recons and or animations on dvd! |
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xylok b
Seasoned Time Traveller
United Kingdom
1074 Posts |
Posted - 16 May 2009 : 10:52:22
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| I'd love to see this Shada recon evertone's talking about could you upload it on the internet so we canall see it please? |
My destiny is in the stars, and to see the day when all 108 missing eps of Doctor Who and Shada are recons and or animations on dvd! |
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xylok b
Seasoned Time Traveller
United Kingdom
1074 Posts |
Posted - 28 May 2009 : 23:22:07
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| I take it, hu hum , no one actually has this mysterious Shada recon? |
My destiny is in the stars, and to see the day when all 108 missing eps of Doctor Who and Shada are recons and or animations on dvd! |
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Pip
Time Traveller
Canada
704 Posts |
Posted - 29 May 2009 : 00:04:44
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| Well Ian has, since he made it. And since it's fairly obvious he doesn't want it publicly distributed based on his comments here, I'm really not sure it's that great an idea to keep on badgering him about it... |
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