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toxicspurge
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Posted - 15 Apr 2009 :  12:59:54  Show Profile Send toxicspurge a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Xylok, that would be a good query for you to post to Dan Hall on DWO!

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The Black Guardian
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Posted - 16 Apr 2009 :  06:33:03  Show Profile Send The Black Guardian a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by xylok b

It's something we can always hope for, why don't we ask about Space Pirates as an extra?




Space Pirates as an extra? Commissioned by Hall and 2/E? I think we have a better chance of finding episodes 1,3,4,5,6 of that story before they include a Space Pirates recon on any type of release.
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xylok b
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Posted - 16 Apr 2009 :  10:59:32  Show Profile  Visit xylok b's Homepage Send xylok b a Private Message  Reply with Quote
But he comissioned the Marco Polo recon didn't he , surley he's shooting himself in the foot.

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xylok b
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Posted - 16 Apr 2009 :  11:03:32  Show Profile  Visit xylok b's Homepage Send xylok b a Private Message  Reply with Quote
So you don't think we may have a Massacre Of St. Bartholowmews' Eve recon ( I love saying that!)
or a Celestial Toymaker recon on the dvd release of The Ark, both cut down versions of course?

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dhandley
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Posted - 16 Apr 2009 :  11:50:08  Show Profile Send dhandley a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by xylok b

But he comissioned the Marco Polo recon didn't he , surley he's shooting himself in the foot.



But that was a long time ago and things have changed. He also commissioned Galaxy 4 and decided not to include it.
Just face it - there will be no more recons on DVD!

Besides this, it has already been announed War Games is due out this year, and so all extras will have already been finalised and delivered a long time ago. I can assure you there isn't a recon of Space Pirates included!

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xylok b
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Posted - 16 Apr 2009 :  16:20:07  Show Profile  Visit xylok b's Homepage Send xylok b a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well perhaps on the next release then?

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toxicspurge
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Posted - 16 Apr 2009 :  16:22:15  Show Profile Send toxicspurge a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Xylok, which part of

"there will be no more recons on DVD!"

while Dan Hall's in charge are you not getting?

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xylok b
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Posted - 16 Apr 2009 :  16:26:10  Show Profile  Visit xylok b's Homepage Send xylok b a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'll just have to stick to the LC versions , after all they're the best , they're more deicated than Dan Hall and to be honest, their recons are probably better!

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xylok b
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Posted - 16 Apr 2009 :  16:27:35  Show Profile  Visit xylok b's Homepage Send xylok b a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Toxic have you seen the LC versions of the Massacre and Toymaker, if you haven't seen them allready they're really good, the latter is probably due for updating though!

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toxicspurge
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Posted - 16 Apr 2009 :  16:30:27  Show Profile Send toxicspurge a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yeah, I've got all the LC recons. I agree they're good. Would love to see an updated Toymaker!

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xylok b
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Posted - 16 Apr 2009 :  16:38:26  Show Profile  Visit xylok b's Homepage Send xylok b a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yeah it's slightly out dated now, 1999 i believe . Massacre, G4, Power,Reign and mission all need a major face lift.

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toxicspurge
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Posted - 16 Apr 2009 :  16:46:35  Show Profile Send toxicspurge a Private Message  Reply with Quote
So did you ever get the recons you sent away for Xylok?

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xylok b
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Posted - 16 Apr 2009 :  18:22:40  Show Profile  Visit xylok b's Homepage Send xylok b a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Call me Nick if you want);
No i didn't i think like Russ said they're probably lost in the post,so i'm gonna give another go and sending off for them again.

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RobW
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Posted - 19 Apr 2009 :  12:18:44  Show Profile  Click to see RobW's MSN Messenger address Send RobW a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dhandley

quote:
Originally posted by xylok b

But he comissioned the Marco Polo recon didn't he , surley he's shooting himself in the foot.



But that was a long time ago and things have changed. He also commissioned Galaxy 4 and decided not to include it.
Just face it - there will be no more recons on DVD!

Besides this, it has already been announed War Games is due out this year, and so all extras will have already been finalised and delivered a long time ago. I can assure you there isn't a recon of Space Pirates included!



But isnt he limiting himself, animation or nothing it seems. Unless he has some sort of masterplan, that animations are going to be the norm?

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Another Ian
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Posted - 19 Apr 2009 :  12:59:59  Show Profile Send Another Ian a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I don't think they have any incentives to do anything for the missing episodes - it's the existing episodes that require stories completing for DVD that will hopefully get things done.

They have no urgency for them to address the wider problem. Ironically if one episode was found they would then have to deal with the rest of the story ASAP.

Shove that in your canon.
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toxicspurge
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Posted - 19 Apr 2009 :  13:19:09  Show Profile Send toxicspurge a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Exactly. Best case scenario, we'll see some sort of completion for Reign, Tenth and Ice Warriors. Worst case scenario, I'm hoping we get the existing eps vid-fired.

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xylok b
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Posted - 19 Apr 2009 :  20:08:15  Show Profile  Visit xylok b's Homepage Send xylok b a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I think Dan Hall should experinment with animations, and recon cutdowns as extras, if he really is a Doctor Who fan, which from what i hear is mainly Colin Baker era, which to be frank most of was sh*te, with a few exceptions! And it sounds like he is more of a fan of JNT than the actuall show itself!
I think that if worse comes to worst, which may not necessairly be a bad thing they wil have to let LC release recons on dvd, because they're not prepared to release them themselves, which i think they will do eventually as they did for the vhs release of Reign, Ice Warriors and Tenth Planet! I don't think we should be so pessimistic i'm sure they will eventually as fans call for more animations and become bored with audios, as let's face it most of the younger generation are, for instance i find the audio version of Masterplan only a shadow of what it was originaly meant to represent, i prefer the excellent visuals in the LC recon!

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Pip
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Posted - 19 Apr 2009 :  21:31:01  Show Profile  Visit Pip's Homepage Send Pip a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by xylok b
I think that if worse comes to worst, which may not necessairly be a bad thing they wil have to let LC release recons on dvd, because they're not prepared to release them themselves


No. They. Won't.

The BBC is under no obligation to release recons, and Loose Cannon certainly cannot try and release them on DVD under the bizarre pretense that 'since the BBC won't do it, then we can'. There are a myriad of shows never released on DVD (like the 1960's Bat-Man) or never completed on DVD (such as series like King of the Hill) because the studio has decided not to continue with it. Does that make it legal to download it, or for someone else to release it on DVD? Of course not.

And whether Dan Hall's right or not when it comes to releasing reconstructions/animations on DVD, the fact is that he runs the line, and it's his call as to what's on the DVDs. Plus fans can whine until the cows come home about how audios are boring and animations are cool, but until enough people buy the DVDs to make them profitable then we're unlikely to get anything more, and certainly not going to get anything more than the 'fill in the gap' stories of The Ice Warriors, The Tenth Planet and The Reign of Terror. It's been 2 years since The Invasion, and I've really not seen any outcry about the animations - most of the time it's just some disappointed grumbling.
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RobW
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Posted - 20 Apr 2009 :  16:24:59  Show Profile  Click to see RobW's MSN Messenger address Send RobW a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I think Dan would rather gnaw off his arms and legs, than go down do the recon route then?

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xylok b
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Posted - 20 Apr 2009 :  20:48:48  Show Profile  Visit xylok b's Homepage Send xylok b a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Surley the Crusade and the Moonbase though , 50% of the stories are still there!

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toxicspurge
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Posted - 21 Apr 2009 :  00:06:07  Show Profile Send toxicspurge a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The 50% have already been released on DVD though.

You seem to have a lot of trouble understanding this Nick, so I'll try and be as straight-forward as possible.

As long as Dan Hall is in charge of 2|E, the odds of seeing a recon on a DVD is very, very, very, very, very, very low.

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toxicspurge
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Posted - 21 Apr 2009 :  00:10:42  Show Profile Send toxicspurge a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You know what? Fine. You win Nick.

You're right. Dan Hall is going to animate ALL missing eps AND release them as recons on the same dvds for those who don't like animation. They'll all be out within the next three years. We've all known about this for awhile, but Dan Hall wanted us to keep it as a surprise for you, but you've figured it out! Keep your eye on Amazon.com.uk for their listings soon!

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mican
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Posted - 21 Apr 2009 :  01:54:34  Show Profile Send mican a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yes, indeed! I just got all my pre-orders in. Thanks, Tox!


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toxicspurge
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Posted - 21 Apr 2009 :  12:31:13  Show Profile Send toxicspurge a Private Message  Reply with Quote
No problem Mican! Glad to be of service!

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toxicspurge
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Posted - 21 Apr 2009 :  12:38:32  Show Profile Send toxicspurge a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Glad to be of service, Mican!

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mican
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Posted - 21 Apr 2009 :  14:30:57  Show Profile Send mican a Private Message  Reply with Quote
No prob ... but there seems to be an echo in here .....


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toxicspurge
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Posted - 21 Apr 2009 :  14:34:21  Show Profile Send toxicspurge a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The dreaded double posting strikes again!

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mican
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Posted - 21 Apr 2009 :  14:47:54  Show Profile Send mican a Private Message  Reply with Quote
And I thought you were just doing it for emphasis .....


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toxicspurge
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Posted - 21 Apr 2009 :  14:55:13  Show Profile Send toxicspurge a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sorry, no! LOL!

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xylok b
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Posted - 21 Apr 2009 :  17:26:56  Show Profile  Visit xylok b's Homepage Send xylok b a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Maybe i have posted too many about recons, sorry?!);
I'm looking forward to Image Of The Fendahl are you?

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