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toxicspurge
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Posted - 10 Apr 2008 :  11:59:06  Show Profile Send toxicspurge a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I watched the New LC Recon of The Savages last night and it looked AWESOME!!!!

The pictures and sound were both much clearer. I loved the little touches like the spears and the torches!

Russ, how do you guys add the realistic looking flames to the recons?

Has anyone else seen this yet? I'd love to discuss it!

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Russ
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Posted - 10 Apr 2008 :  13:19:42  Show Profile Send Russ a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well i've seen it :-)

I think the ones in Savages were actually CGI flames which Dean got and overlaid them with an Alpha Channel, In Space Pirates the candle flame was an actual filmed candle cropped and overlaid with an alpha channel

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toxicspurge
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Posted - 10 Apr 2008 :  13:48:53  Show Profile Send toxicspurge a Private Message  Reply with Quote
What's an "Alpha Channel"?

Can you put this is stupid terms for me?

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Russ
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Posted - 10 Apr 2008 :  14:40:09  Show Profile Send Russ a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by toxicspurge

What's an "Alpha Channel"?

Can you put this is stupid terms for me?




You blank one colour out (in this case black)

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toxicspurge
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Posted - 10 Apr 2008 :  14:44:28  Show Profile Send toxicspurge a Private Message  Reply with Quote
So you basically blank out what's there and paste over it with the CGI effect?

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Russ
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Posted - 10 Apr 2008 :  15:14:27  Show Profile Send Russ a Private Message  Reply with Quote
No, its flame on a black background which you lay over the top of the telesnap and blank the black out, just leaving the flame

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toxicspurge
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Posted - 10 Apr 2008 :  15:29:58  Show Profile Send toxicspurge a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ah, got it! Thanks!

Is it the same for the spears landing besides the tardis?

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Russ
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Posted - 10 Apr 2008 :  16:34:45  Show Profile Send Russ a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by toxicspurge

Ah, got it! Thanks!

Is it the same for the spears landing besides the tardis?



Sort of, I didn't actually do them but i imagine they were done using an image matte, you make a black and white image with the spear in black and the background in white (or vice versa), have the spears on a seperate layer then tell the prog to cut everything in white (or black) thus just leaving the spears, you then pan the spears for the movement, It can be done a similar way in after effects but using a soft edge cut in photoshop

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toxicspurge
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Posted - 10 Apr 2008 :  16:44:36  Show Profile Send toxicspurge a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sounds like magic too me, but keep it up! LOL!

So if you wanted to, you could have put in a rock falling down and bouncing off Steven's head? (without the reaction of course!). Man, it's a good think I don't know how to do this stuff. I'd be making all kinds of wonky things happen! LOL!

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Adam
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Posted - 10 Apr 2008 :  17:01:20  Show Profile Send Adam a Private Message  Reply with Quote
This release sounds excellent, I have always liked the savages, I have only heard on it the narrated audio but it did sound good.

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Adam
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Posted - 10 Apr 2008 :  17:04:17  Show Profile Send Adam a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by toxicspurge

Sounds like magic too me, but keep it up! LOL!

So if you wanted to, you could have put in a rock falling down and bouncing off Steven's head? (without the reaction of course!). Man, it's a good think I don't know how to do this stuff. I'd be making all kinds of wonky things happen! LOL!



The thins is though its quite time consuming to do these thing, maybe you should offer to help the LC guys out ;-)

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toxicspurge
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Posted - 10 Apr 2008 :  17:09:44  Show Profile Send toxicspurge a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You know Adam, I would love to do this sort of thing, but I have absolutely no knowledge or skill in this area. Took me two weeks to figure out how to use Messenger on my computer at home.

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Adam
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Posted - 10 Apr 2008 :  17:24:46  Show Profile Send Adam a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by toxicspurge

You know Adam, I would love to do this sort of thing, but I have absolutely no knowledge or skill in this area. Took me two weeks to figure out how to use Messenger on my computer at home.





Well, give it 20 years you may be able to do a recon :-)

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toxicspurge
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Posted - 10 Apr 2008 :  17:47:37  Show Profile Send toxicspurge a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm hoping long before that all the missing eps will be animated or CGI'd and there won't be a need to do recons anymore!

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Russ
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Posted - 10 Apr 2008 :  17:50:13  Show Profile Send Russ a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by toxicspurge

Sounds like magic too me, but keep it up! LOL!

So if you wanted to, you could have put in a rock falling down and bouncing off Steven's head? (without the reaction of course!). Man, it's a good think I don't know how to do this stuff. I'd be making all kinds of wonky things happen! LOL!



Well you could but you would have to film the rock against a background you could key out (greenscreen) or create a cgi rock with a moving matte (like the daleks in DMP) or maybe use a 2d rock with a matte and a rotating pan - whichever way it would look shit without the reaction, though if you dis have a reaction on ilm you could overlay it on that and paint whatever was causing that reaction out - depending on the background etc - or but the rock over the top

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toxicspurge
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Posted - 10 Apr 2008 :  18:17:15  Show Profile Send toxicspurge a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Nevermind...you're sucking all the fun out of the idea~

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toxicspurge
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Posted - 10 Apr 2008 :  18:18:07  Show Profile Send toxicspurge a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Nevermind...you're sucking all the fun out of the idea~LOL!

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Another Ian
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Posted - 10 Apr 2008 :  19:28:29  Show Profile Send Another Ian a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by toxicspurge

Sounds like magic too me, but keep it up! LOL!

So if you wanted to, you could have put in a rock falling down and bouncing off Steven's head? (without the reaction of course!). Man, it's a good think I don't know how to do this stuff. I'd be making all kinds of wonky things happen! LOL!



Watch Farmageddon's Five Doctors again on Youtube to see what you could do with a stray rock... if so inclinded
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