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Another Ian
Time Traveller
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 Posted - 17 Jun 2009 : 19:55:28
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I'm just curious, with the likelihood that all the existing episodes will be out on DVD by 2012/2013 do Loose Cannon have a similar sort of self imposed deadline to work to - when all Recons are as good as you want them? Or is the intention to revisit any that can be, adding any new sources or CG. There's always room for improvement, but is there the will?
Likewise we haven't had a Loose Tenth Planet 4 since the BBC did theirs. Would that (and Invasion) be out of bounds since there's official alternatives?
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Shove that in your canon. |
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Russ
Head Administrator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 17 Jun 2009 : 22:19:37
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Originally posted by Another Ian
I'm just curious, with the likelihood that all the existing episodes will be out on DVD by 2012/2013 do Loose Cannon have a similar sort of self imposed deadline to work to - when all Recons are as good as you want them? Or is the intention to revisit any that can be, adding any new sources or CG. There's always room for improvement, but is there the will?
Likewise we haven't had a Loose Tenth Planet 4 since the BBC did theirs. Would that (and Invasion) be out of bounds since there's official alternatives?
Whilst ever the motivation is there to work on em i imagine we will just update what needs updating, there is certainly less to do as you get newer and newer but even recent releases have some stuff that can be improved
Depends what the beeb do with Tenth planet on DVD i suppose, Invasion is quite different as a cartoon so i don't think that would be a problem to redo |
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Ian Levine
The Consultant
United Kingdom
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Posted - 18 Jun 2009 : 13:28:24
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| Marco Polo, Enemy Of the World, Power Of The Daleks, those three DESPERATELY need re-doing apart from the current few that are being worked on right now. |
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"There will always be 108 missing episodes"
But if they animate them like those two "Invasion" episodes, then it won't feel NEARLY as bad. |
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Another Ian
Time Traveller
United Kingdom
800 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jun 2009 : 16:04:20
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| I guess Power and Marco Polo are pretty much obvious (I'll be sorry to loose the colour though), but is there much more that can be done for Enemy? |
Shove that in your canon. |
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toxicspurge
Rassilons Bitch
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Posted - 18 Jun 2009 : 16:15:18
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| I think that's a good question, Another Ian. |
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Russ
Head Administrator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 18 Jun 2009 : 16:56:46
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Originally posted by Another Ian
I guess Power and Marco Polo are pretty much obvious (I'll be sorry to loose the colour though), but is there much more that can be done for Enemy?
Well apart from using better quality materials have you watched through the episode which has no telesnaps? in particular the sequence where Salamander goes down in th elift? Its just close up after close up of Salamander and captions
I seem to remember Ian has some particular bugbear regarding a guard in it as well! |
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xylok b
Seasoned Time Traveller
United Kingdom
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Posted - 18 Jun 2009 : 18:48:58
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My destiny is in the stars, and to see the day when all 108 missing eps of Doctor Who and Shada are recons and or animations on dvd! |
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Another Ian
Time Traveller
United Kingdom
800 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jun 2009 : 19:22:55
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| CG animated Daleks surely. I suppose the real question is will Ian let them use the production photographs. |
Shove that in your canon. |
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Russ
Head Administrator
United Kingdom
3337 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jun 2009 : 20:09:57
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Yeah, tonnes
CGI Daleks, better quality materials and plenty more
Big job though, Timing Dalek lights for CGI is a major pain |
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RobW
Seasoned Time Traveller
United Kingdom
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Ian Levine
The Consultant
United Kingdom
5925 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jun 2009 : 21:53:15
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Originally posted by Russ
I seem to remember Ian has some particular bugbear regarding a guard in it as well!
The old recon is awful and inaccurate.
And the Central European Zone guard leader is used as the image for the Australian Zone guard leader, even though they had different outfits altogether.
And part four is the worst recon of any episode since the earliest version of The Space Pirates. |
http://www.myspace.com/ian_levine
"There will always be 108 missing episodes"
But if they animate them like those two "Invasion" episodes, then it won't feel NEARLY as bad. |
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Ian Levine
The Consultant
United Kingdom
5925 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jun 2009 : 21:56:11
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quote:
Originally posted by Another Ian
CG animated Daleks surely. I suppose the real question is will Ian let them use the production photographs.
There is nothing I would not do, and no lengths to which I would not go, to improve these wonderful essential recons - currently our only chance to visually enjoy the rich tapestry of Doctor Who's history.
I dream and yearn for the day when every, yes EVERY, recon is as good a quality as Evil Of The Daleks, and I pledge myself to do anything I can towards that end.
The people who spend so much time and energy creating them deserve medals of honour, and are the saviours of the history of our wonderful show. |
http://www.myspace.com/ian_levine
"There will always be 108 missing episodes"
But if they animate them like those two "Invasion" episodes, then it won't feel NEARLY as bad. |
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Russ
Head Administrator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 18 Jun 2009 : 22:11:06
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Originally posted by RobW
and the clean up Telesnaps from Power Of The Daleks Reconstructed,
You are kidding aren't you?
I think they had Stevie Wonder clean them! |
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toxicspurge
Rassilons Bitch
USA
11570 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jun 2009 : 22:17:30
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RobW
Seasoned Time Traveller
United Kingdom
1267 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jun 2009 : 22:41:45
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Originally posted by Russ
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Originally posted by RobW
and the clean up Telesnaps from Power Of The Daleks Reconstructed,
You are kidding aren't you?
I think they had Stevie Wonder clean them!
Stevie Wonder is Power's biggest Fan, WOULD YOU DENY HIM THE CHANCE!
Now David Blunket is dying to work on the Telesnaps for the Highlanders, I can see it now on his expensive's form - Work on Doctor Who Recons £2000 claim. |
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Ian Levine
The Consultant
United Kingdom
5925 Posts |
Posted - 19 Jun 2009 : 00:52:14
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Originally posted by Russ
You are kidding aren't you?
I think they had Stevie Wonder clean them!
All joking aside, Power Of The Daleks could be every bit as good as Evil Of the Daleks when it eventually gets done properly. |
http://www.myspace.com/ian_levine
"There will always be 108 missing episodes"
But if they animate them like those two "Invasion" episodes, then it won't feel NEARLY as bad. |
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zeropolis79
Junior Time Traveller
United Kingdom
72 Posts |
Posted - 19 Jun 2009 : 01:42:19
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Originally posted by Ian Levine
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Originally posted by Another Ian
CG animated Daleks surely. I suppose the real question is will Ian let them use the production photographs.
There is nothing I would not do, and no lengths to which I would not go, to improve these wonderful essential recons - currently our only chance to visually enjoy the rich tapestry of Doctor Who's history.
I dream and yearn for the day when every, yes EVERY, recon is as good a quality as Evil Of The Daleks, and I pledge myself to do anything I can towards that end.
The people who spend so much time and energy creating them deserve medals of honour, and are the saviours of the history of our wonderful show.
HEar, hear. I did a recon of Moonbase and that'll never be as good as LC's version. |
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darnall42
Junior Time Traveller
United Kingdom
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Posted - 27 Jun 2009 : 20:45:14
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| I'd like to see a re-done Galaxy 4 now that we'll never get to see the cutdown version that was gonna be on the time meddler dvd.Although the recon itself is excellent,the soundtrack could be improved and maybe some CGI could be added (cant see the point of marco polo being redone though-this is one of my altime favorite loose cannon releases ) |
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Ian Levine
The Consultant
United Kingdom
5925 Posts |
Posted - 27 Jun 2009 : 22:04:52
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Originally posted by darnall42
cant see the point of marco polo being redone though-this is one of my altime favorite loose cannon releases
There are no telesnaps in it. NONE. They turned up after the recon was made.
Plus the episodes were originally made in black and white - I have no desire to see them in colour.
Plus, if you watch the ridiculously short and inadequate cutdown version on "The Beginning" box set, you will see how AMAZINGLY superior both the picture quality and the audio both are, compared to the old Loose Cannon recon.
So, my dear Darnall42, you are ONE HUNDRED PERCENT WRONG on every count. |
http://www.myspace.com/ian_levine
"There will always be 108 missing episodes"
But if they animate them like those two "Invasion" episodes, then it won't feel NEARLY as bad. |
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Pip
Time Traveller
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Posted - 28 Jun 2009 : 01:13:38
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Personally, while the Loose Cannon colour reconstruction was a fantastic endeavour, and certainly one of the best thing they've done, it would be a crying shame for the only proper reconstruction to use the authentic tele-snaps to be the half-hour version on the DVD.
I would just hope that when Loose Cannon do a tele-snapped Marco Polo (which I hope is an inevitability), they keep the colour version available rather than 'delete' them, as they have done with their other remade recons. |
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Daveyboy
Newbie
United Kingdom
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Posted - 01 Jul 2009 : 11:22:26
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Could anyone please tell me which recons are currently being worked on, apart from Faceless Ones ?
I am personally looking forward to the release of Wheel or Web, the two LC have yet to attempt. :@) |
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Another Ian
Time Traveller
United Kingdom
800 Posts |
Posted - 01 Jul 2009 : 15:35:15
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| I'd rather like to see the MARCO POLO telesnaps colourised, so we could have the same recon then availible in both B&W and colour, it's typical of Dr Who to be half way in between. |
Shove that in your canon. |
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the_jugulator
Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 01 Jul 2009 : 21:12:44
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Originally posted by Another Ian
I'd rather like to see the MARCO POLO telesnaps colourised, so we could have the same recon then availible in both B&W and colour, it's typical of Dr Who to be half way in between.
Soapy Mouth wash is on standby Mr Levine... |
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Ian Levine
The Consultant
United Kingdom
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Posted - 15 Jul 2009 : 01:29:46
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Originally posted by Another Ian
I'd rather like to see the MARCO POLO telesnaps colourised, so we could have the same recon then availible in both B&W and colour, it's typical of Dr Who to be half way in between.
Sometimes I just wonder why I bother. |
http://www.myspace.com/ian_levine
"There will always be 108 missing episodes"
But if they animate them like those two "Invasion" episodes, then it won't feel NEARLY as bad. |
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toxicspurge
Rassilons Bitch
USA
11570 Posts |
Posted - 15 Jul 2009 : 01:39:30
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Originally posted by Another Ian
I'd rather like to see the MARCO POLO telesnaps colourised, so we could have the same recon then availible in both B&W and colour, it's typical of Dr Who to be half way in between.
OK, that makes like no sense! |
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xylok b
Seasoned Time Traveller
United Kingdom
1079 Posts |
Posted - 15 Jul 2009 : 19:38:04
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| Celestial Toymaker, reign Of Terror, Massacre ? |
My destiny is in the stars, and to see the day when all 108 missing eps of Doctor Who and Shada are recons and or animations on dvd! |
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Another Ian
Time Traveller
United Kingdom
800 Posts |
Posted - 15 Jul 2009 : 21:23:56
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Originally posted by Ian Levine
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Originally posted by Another Ian
I'd rather like to see the MARCO POLO telesnaps colourised, so we could have the same recon then availible in both B&W and colour, it's typical of Dr Who to be half way in between.
Sometimes I just wonder why I bother.
Why did Barry Newbury bother taking colour photographs? Why did Loose Cannon bother assembling them all together? I'm not begrudging you the chance to watch it in Black and White, but it does look rather splendid in colour.
Some of us appreciate the effort. In fact I even had someone asking me about the '1 hour colour recon' yesterday who'd never expressed an interest in recons before, despite years of nagging! They were most surprised to hear it is the full 3 hour story that is in colour.
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Originally posted by toxicspurge
OK, that makes like no sense!
A lot of work has already been put into colourising the photos, many were already in colour. I don't think it makes any sense in wasting all that hard work, all that colour. Yet there are also screen accurate images that obviously deserve to be used as part of the ultimate Marco Polo recon.
No I don't expect to see 400 odd telesnaps colourised (too much work) I'm just saying including the telesnaps at the expense of the colour is an odd situation to be in.
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Ian Levine
The Consultant
United Kingdom
5925 Posts |
Posted - 15 Jul 2009 : 23:33:43
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Originally posted by Another Ian
No I don't expect to see 400 odd telesnaps colourised (too much work) I'm just saying including the telesnaps at the expense of the colour is an odd situation to be in.
I only care about seeing a decent quality recon that reflects what it looked like on transmission - it should be all our combined goals to get to that end, and anybody talented who can do decent CGI should be urged to contribute as much as they can. If Dan Hall isn't going to do it, out of self interest or disinterest, then collectively, we fans need to preserve the history of our show and push to get all the remaining missing episodes on as high quality recons as is humanly possible to do.
EVERY recon should be as good as Evil Of The Daleks.
And speaking as the person who saved more episodes from destruction than anyone else ever has, I feel I have earned the right to make this statement. |
http://www.myspace.com/ian_levine
"There will always be 108 missing episodes"
But if they animate them like those two "Invasion" episodes, then it won't feel NEARLY as bad. |
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zeropolis79
Junior Time Traveller
United Kingdom
72 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jul 2009 : 11:00:30
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| I agree with you there Ian, although I've not seen the LC Evil of the Daleks yet. |
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xylok b
Seasoned Time Traveller
United Kingdom
1079 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jul 2009 : 21:28:35
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| I really want to see the LC version of Evil! |
My destiny is in the stars, and to see the day when all 108 missing eps of Doctor Who and Shada are recons and or animations on dvd! |
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Pip
Time Traveller
Canada
705 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jul 2009 : 22:00:10
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Then send off a video and ask for it!
For someone extolling the virtues of Loose Cannon, I find it strange that you've not obtained one of their best pieces of work.... |
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