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steve.othen
Junior Time Traveller


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Posted - 28 Jul 2009 :  09:02:16  Show Profile Send steve.othen a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Does anyone know if &/or when recons of "the web of fear" & "the wheel in space" will be made & released?

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Ian Levine
The Consultant



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Posted - 28 Jul 2009 :  10:39:23  Show Profile  Visit Ian Levine's Homepage Send Ian Levine a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by steve.othen

Does anyone know if &/or when recons of "the web of fear" & "the wheel in space" will be made & released?



Russ has been working on both, but has temporarily stopped due to personal problems.

There will always be 106 episodes missing. Last year like a fool I stupidly fell for the rumours of finding 43 missing episodes but as usual it's all bull.
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steve.othen
Junior Time Traveller



United Kingdom
51 Posts

Posted - 28 Jul 2009 :  10:44:04  Show Profile Send steve.othen a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ian Levine

quote:
Originally posted by steve.othen

Does anyone know if &/or when recons of "the web of fear" & "the wheel in space" will be made & released?



Russ has been working on both, but has temporarily stopped due to personal problems.


Ok, thanks ian.
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xylok b
Seasoned Time Traveller



United Kingdom
1719 Posts

Posted - 28 Jul 2009 :  19:03:50  Show Profile  Visit xylok b's Homepage Send xylok b a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I suspect there are quite a few productions loose Cannon are working on, they were doing Evil Of The daleks in the middle of all the others.

My destiny is in the stars, and to see the day when all 97 missing eps of Doctor Who and Shada are recons and or animations on dvd!
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The Black Guardian
Seasoned Time Traveller



USA
1333 Posts

Posted - 29 Jul 2009 :  04:12:01  Show Profile Send The Black Guardian a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by steve.othen

Does anyone know if &/or when recons of "the web of fear" & "the wheel in space" will be made & released?





Well, there were some recons called JV that had versions of The Web of Fear and The Wheel in Space. Maybe some of the old distributors still have copies of these. I really liked these versions of these particular stories.
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dean69
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Australia
172 Posts

Posted - 01 Aug 2009 :  02:31:57  Show Profile Send dean69 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Loose Canon reconstructions of these two stories would be most welcome. Although, I speak as a Pertwee specialist I have one or two friends that specialise in the Troughton period. They would also love too see such productions out there.

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every frame of every movie, every panel of every comic strip."
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chumblielover
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Posted - 21 Aug 2009 :  00:01:11  Show Profile Send chumblielover a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ian Levine

quote:
Originally posted by steve.othen

Does anyone know if &/or when recons of "the web of fear" & "the wheel in space" will be made & released?



Russ has been working on both, but has temporarily stopped due to personal problems.



:(

Send the guy my best wishes, please. He's a top feller.
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Ian Levine
The Consultant



United Kingdom
7308 Posts

Posted - 21 Aug 2009 :  00:19:25  Show Profile  Visit Ian Levine's Homepage Send Ian Levine a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Black Guardian


Well, there were some recons called JV that had versions of The Web of Fear and The Wheel in Space. Maybe some of the old distributors still have copies of these. I really liked these versions of these particular stories.



They were terrible, slow moving, blurred, fuzzy, muffled, and unintelligible in places.

Those are the kind of recons to put people off watching the good quality ones.

I pray Russ gets over his problems and resumes them. I gather his hard drive got severely damaged which makes things far far worse too.

There will always be 106 episodes missing. Last year like a fool I stupidly fell for the rumours of finding 43 missing episodes but as usual it's all bull.
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MysterNitekatt
Junior Time Traveller



56 Posts

Posted - 21 Aug 2009 :  08:27:16  Show Profile Send MysterNitekatt a Private Message  Reply with Quote
So are these the only two stories that haven't had a 'better' recon done?
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RobW
Seasoned Time Traveller



United Kingdom
1577 Posts

Posted - 21 Aug 2009 :  10:36:58  Show Profile Send RobW a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Russ is a very respect person, his moderation approach is very calm and controlled. I wish him all the best and hope to see him back soon.
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Ian Levine
The Consultant



United Kingdom
7308 Posts

Posted - 21 Aug 2009 :  13:08:57  Show Profile  Visit Ian Levine's Homepage Send Ian Levine a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MysterNitekatt

So are these the only two stories that haven't had a 'better' recon done?



Web is.

But there was the most FANTASTIC recon of Wheel In Space, that not many people had seen, done by someone in America or Canada, that was sharp, clear, and used some CGI, and was brilliant, although nowhere near as brilliant as what I've seen so far of the unfinished new one, with a servo robot that looks like it's the real footage.

There will always be 106 episodes missing. Last year like a fool I stupidly fell for the rumours of finding 43 missing episodes but as usual it's all bull.
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xylok b
Seasoned Time Traveller



United Kingdom
1719 Posts

Posted - 21 Aug 2009 :  20:07:41  Show Profile  Visit xylok b's Homepage Send xylok b a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Awesome, i'm looking forward to them, but especially the Web Of Fear!!!

My destiny is in the stars, and to see the day when all 97 missing eps of Doctor Who and Shada are recons and or animations on dvd!
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teshia
Newbie



Canada
5 Posts

Posted - 23 Sep 2009 :  15:00:54  Show Profile Send teshia a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
...there was the most FANTASTIC recon of Wheel In Space, that not many people had seen, done by someone in America or Canada, that was sharp, clear, and used some CGI, and was brilliant...


Are you talking about the Axos Recons VCD one?
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Pip
Time Traveller



Canada
757 Posts

Posted - 24 Sep 2009 :  00:01:57  Show Profile  Visit Pip's Homepage Send Pip a Private Message  Reply with Quote
If it's the same one I've seen (and Ian's description certainly fits that), then I believe it is.
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dhandley
Administrator



United Kingdom
199 Posts

Posted - 24 Sep 2009 :  10:13:21  Show Profile Send dhandley a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by teshia

quote:
...there was the most FANTASTIC recon of Wheel In Space, that not many people had seen, done by someone in America or Canada, that was sharp, clear, and used some CGI, and was brilliant...


Are you talking about the Axos Recons VCD one?



Yes, he is. I showed it to Ian. It really was well done.

Derek
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Makkabee
Seasoned Time Traveller



3371 Posts

Posted - 24 Sep 2009 :  17:27:54  Show Profile Send Makkabee a Private Message  Reply with Quote
How does one go about acquiring this WiS recon?

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teshia
Newbie



Canada
5 Posts

Posted - 24 Sep 2009 :  20:44:28  Show Profile Send teshia a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ah well then, let me say thanks to Ian and Derek for the kind words. It was myself that made that one. I was thinking about it the other day and dropped by here to see if Loose Cannon had done one since that time. I've gotten back into music these days so I haven't done much on the reconstruction end of things. I DID get about halfway through a reconstruction of The Moonbase that was coming along MUCH better than the Wheel In Space one was but unfortunately I never finished it. I remember I had some really good animations for the companions jumping about on the moon and the electric shocks from the Cybermen. Maybe I should render them and youtube the clips for the sake of things. Not sure if I'd get a takedown notice for that but I'm guessing I might.

As far as getting that WiS recon, Makkabee. I have to say I don't distribute it. Specifically this was because the reconstruction was a private one I did for myself. It was in a digital format (NTSC VCD) and while this was great for me, distributing it would have put the reconstruction community at even more legal risk than they've faced in the past, so I only made copies of it for Loose Cannon so they'd have it for their records. The Moonbase one was being prepared as a DVD-R format complete with several extras, re-edited menus to make it similar to those seen in the classic series DVD releases, and more. Maybe one day I'll revisit it but for me personally, it's just not the time at present.
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Another Ian
Time Traveller



United Kingdom
983 Posts

Posted - 24 Sep 2009 :  22:59:17  Show Profile Send Another Ian a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I don't think you'd have anything to fear on Youtube, except people asking for more!

Shove that in your canon.
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Makkabee
Seasoned Time Traveller



3371 Posts

Posted - 25 Sep 2009 :  00:53:04  Show Profile Send Makkabee a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ah well. Fair enough. Thanks for your prompt response, teshia.

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shireknight
Junior Time Traveller



29 Posts

Posted - 20 Nov 2009 :  04:15:08  Show Profile Send shireknight a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I have a question about these two stories. Looking at the list of recons I notice that there are telesnaps for both stories and I would have thought that lack of material would be the overriding factor regarding how easy or hard a recon is to make so how come these two stories were not made into recons before say stories like Galaxy Four and Daleks Masterplan which according to the list do not have telesnaps
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Sontaran
Seasoned Time Traveller

United Kingdom
1030 Posts

Posted - 20 Nov 2009 :  10:03:03  Show Profile Send Sontaran a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by shireknight

Looking at the list of recons I notice that there are telesnaps for both stories and I would have thought that lack of material would be the overriding factor regarding how easy or hard a recon is to make. So how come these two stories were not made into recons before say stories like Galaxy Four and Daleks Masterplan which according to the list do not have telesnaps



I would think it is because there are no telesnaps that has driven the need to produce a recon of stories like Galaxy 4 and Master Plan. Whereas with the telesnaps (published in Doctor Who Magazine and Doctor Who Classic Comics and DWB specials), you can at least see what had been on the screen and view the telesnaps yourself while listening to the soundtrack (from BBC Audio).
Also, for a while, there were a number of fan groups making recons, so the availablity of telesnaps made it more than likely that one of those groups would tackle that story.
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dhandley
Administrator



United Kingdom
199 Posts

Posted - 20 Nov 2009 :  10:19:58  Show Profile Send dhandley a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by shireknight

I have a question about these two stories. Looking at the list of recons I notice that there are telesnaps for both stories and I would have thought that lack of material would be the overriding factor regarding how easy or hard a recon is to make so how come these two stories were not made into recons before say stories like Galaxy Four and Daleks Masterplan which according to the list do not have telesnaps


Really they have been left until last because there were JV recons available for both of these stories, so they were not given as much priority.

Derek
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Ian Levine
The Consultant



United Kingdom
7308 Posts

Posted - 20 Nov 2009 :  13:49:24  Show Profile  Visit Ian Levine's Homepage Send Ian Levine a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by teshia

Ah well then, let me say thanks to Ian and Derek for the kind words. It was myself that made that one. I was thinking about it the other day and dropped by here to see if Loose Cannon had done one since that time. I've gotten back into music these days so I haven't done much on the reconstruction end of things. I DID get about halfway through a reconstruction of The Moonbase that was coming along MUCH better than the Wheel In Space one was but unfortunately I never finished it. I remember I had some really good animations for the companions jumping about on the moon and the electric shocks from the Cybermen. Maybe I should render them and youtube the clips for the sake of things. Not sure if I'd get a takedown notice for that but I'm guessing I might.

As far as getting that WiS recon, Makkabee. I have to say I don't distribute it. Specifically this was because the reconstruction was a private one I did for myself. It was in a digital format (NTSC VCD) and while this was great for me, distributing it would have put the reconstruction community at even more legal risk than they've faced in the past, so I only made copies of it for Loose Cannon so they'd have it for their records. The Moonbase one was being prepared as a DVD-R format complete with several extras, re-edited menus to make it similar to those seen in the classic series DVD releases, and more. Maybe one day I'll revisit it but for me personally, it's just not the time at present.



Maybe you could take the exisiting Monbase recon, which is beautiful high quality, and add some CGI scenes to that, then the quality would be REALLY good. Contact me by PM if you'd like to.

There will always be 106 episodes missing. Last year like a fool I stupidly fell for the rumours of finding 43 missing episodes but as usual it's all bull.
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Russ
Head Administrator



United Kingdom
3588 Posts

Posted - 20 Nov 2009 :  14:05:27  Show Profile Send Russ a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by teshia

Ah well then, let me say thanks to Ian and Derek for the kind words. It was myself that made that one. I was thinking about it the other day and dropped by here to see if Loose Cannon had done one since that time. I've gotten back into music these days so I haven't done much on the reconstruction end of things. I DID get about halfway through a reconstruction of The Moonbase that was coming along MUCH better than the Wheel In Space one was but unfortunately I never finished it. I remember I had some really good animations for the companions jumping about on the moon and the electric shocks from the Cybermen. Maybe I should render them and youtube the clips for the sake of things. Not sure if I'd get a takedown notice for that but I'm guessing I might.

As far as getting that WiS recon, Makkabee. I have to say I don't distribute it. Specifically this was because the reconstruction was a private one I did for myself. It was in a digital format (NTSC VCD) and while this was great for me, distributing it would have put the reconstruction community at even more legal risk than they've faced in the past, so I only made copies of it for Loose Cannon so they'd have it for their records. The Moonbase one was being prepared as a DVD-R format complete with several extras, re-edited menus to make it similar to those seen in the classic series DVD releases, and more. Maybe one day I'll revisit it but for me personally, it's just not the time at present.



It is yours and it is very good indeed! In fact i spent hours trying to work out how you had done some stuff to try to replicate it for the new one!

www.recons.com
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Ian Levine
The Consultant



United Kingdom
7308 Posts

Posted - 20 Nov 2009 :  14:45:40  Show Profile  Visit Ian Levine's Homepage Send Ian Levine a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Russ

It is yours and it is very good indeed! In fact i spent hours trying to work out how you had done some stuff to try to replicate it for the new one!



Russ........

Are you back ???????????

There will always be 106 episodes missing. Last year like a fool I stupidly fell for the rumours of finding 43 missing episodes but as usual it's all bull.
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toxicspurge
Rassilons Bitch



USA
13439 Posts

Posted - 20 Nov 2009 :  16:58:12  Show Profile Send toxicspurge a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Here's hoping Russ is back!!!!!!

"There will always be 97 missing episodes of Doctor Who"
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Paul Hawkins
Newbie

United Kingdom
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Posted - 11 Dec 2009 :  15:16:19  Show Profile Send Paul Hawkins a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I am looking forward to a Web of Fear recon sooooo much from LC!!!
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bige
Time Traveller



Australia
224 Posts

Posted - 27 Dec 2009 :  02:42:08  Show Profile Send bige a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I should be looking more forward to 'The Web of Fear' but I can't resist a space station from the future full of evil robots planning to take over the Earth!!!
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JediColt
Junior Time Traveller

USA
48 Posts

Posted - 10 Feb 2010 :  00:23:08  Show Profile Send JediColt a Private Message  Reply with Quote

What's funny is that I've seen a lot of posts about Web and Wheel, but nothing that really says why these two have never been tackled. Both stories have telesnaps and episodes, they've done Cybermen stories, they've done the other Yeti story, there are plenty of photo's of Troughton and Jamie and Victoria and Zoe to use.

It's not size as we're talking about 5 and 4 missing episodes respectively. LC has done 6+ episodes several times.

Is it maybe because these are both important stories? Web is the intoduction of UNIT, although it wasn't called that in that story, and Wheel introduces a companion.
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toxicspurge
Rassilons Bitch



USA
13439 Posts

Posted - 10 Feb 2010 :  01:10:19  Show Profile Send toxicspurge a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well there were "watchable" versions of both produced by Joint Venture. Could be LC has been focusing on those that don't have "watchable" versions already out.

"There will always be 97 missing episodes of Doctor Who"
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JediColt
Junior Time Traveller

USA
48 Posts

Posted - 10 Feb 2010 :  04:51:41  Show Profile Send JediColt a Private Message  Reply with Quote
That makes more sense. So really those two JV ones aren't considered much different than the old "Faceless Ones" and "Myth Makers" LC recons that were recently redone.

I've seen most of the LC recons and the quality from the recent ones is lightyears ahead of those first few. I haven't seen the JV ones, but I'm assuming from comments that they're on par with those?

That makes more sense that it really isn't two missing stories, just two old recons that they haven't tackled yet.
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