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Another Ian Posted - 17 Jun 2009 : 19:55:28
I'm just curious, with the likelihood that all the existing episodes will be out on DVD by 2012/2013 do Loose Cannon have a similar sort of self imposed deadline to work to - when all Recons are as good as you want them? Or is the intention to revisit any that can be, adding any new sources or CG. There's always room for improvement, but is there the will?

Likewise we haven't had a Loose Tenth Planet 4 since the BBC did theirs. Would that (and Invasion) be out of bounds since there's official alternatives?
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TheLazenby Posted - 12 Aug 2009 : 08:01:09
Yeah, I don't think LC needs to update "Master Plan" anytime soon. All I remember being wrong was a handful of bad composites towards the end, but there's so much good about it as a whole that I don't think those are a worry.

I would like to see an updated "Mission" though, if only to bring it up to the standards of DMP. That contrasted-out superimposed rocket thing and obvious thorn packaging-tape'd to the guy's hand need to go.
Another Ian Posted - 11 Aug 2009 : 20:50:01
It might not mean starting from scratch, just a lot of screengrabs from part 2, and any 'new' photos inserted into the existing version. Besides there's 10% less to construct than last time :D

Of course sod's law says they do all that then part 3 turns up a week later ;)
zeropolis79 Posted - 11 Aug 2009 : 16:31:24
Can't see the LC boys wanting to do DMP mk 2...
xylok b Posted - 11 Aug 2009 : 11:44:17
Does anyone know if any stories such as DMP, CT, TM, MTU and POTD are in the pipeline for recon mark 2 ?
matt101 Posted - 10 Aug 2009 : 20:58:27
just out of intrest if you have surviving footage like cencors clips do they go into the recon? just intrested.
MysterNitekatt Posted - 10 Aug 2009 : 20:53:34
But at what point will something be consitered final - especially for the stories without telesnaps.

I'm glad we have Ian around for his input - I don't think 1960's DR WHO has a bigger supporter
and champion as Ian - I agree that the recons should reflect as close as possible the visual aspects of the lost episodes.

Even the best Recon can be improved. New technology every day can improve the telesnaps,etc.

Some of the fan animation and CGI work being done ranges from ok to fantastic.
zeropolis79 Posted - 07 Aug 2009 : 13:31:31
Main problem is that I don't like to ask because the people who do offer to help me end up letting me down. (especially the person who promised me scans of the Tenth Planet: 4 telesnaps for a fanedit and didn't deliver) so I don't like to ask.
Steve Hatcher Posted - 03 Aug 2009 : 18:55:10
quote:
Originally posted by zeropolis79

There is a little problem with that - I DON'T HAVE A VIDEO PLAYER!



There is usually a way around this - just ask.
S
Steve Hatcher Posted - 03 Aug 2009 : 18:54:08
quote:
Originally posted by Pip

I would just hope that when Loose Cannon do a tele-snapped Marco Polo (which I hope is an inevitability), they keep the colour version available rather than 'delete' them, as they have done with their other remade recons.



You know, if you really want to have copioes of the older, inferior versions of recons, you only have to ask your dubsite.
S
zeropolis79 Posted - 17 Jul 2009 : 00:12:37
There is a little problem with that - I DON'T HAVE A VIDEO PLAYER!
Pip Posted - 16 Jul 2009 : 22:00:10
Then send off a video and ask for it!

For someone extolling the virtues of Loose Cannon, I find it strange that you've not obtained one of their best pieces of work....
xylok b Posted - 16 Jul 2009 : 21:28:35
I really want to see the LC version of Evil!
zeropolis79 Posted - 16 Jul 2009 : 11:00:30
I agree with you there Ian, although I've not seen the LC Evil of the Daleks yet.
Ian Levine Posted - 15 Jul 2009 : 23:33:43
quote:
Originally posted by Another Ian

No I don't expect to see 400 odd telesnaps colourised (too much work) I'm just saying including the telesnaps at the expense of the colour is an odd situation to be in.




I only care about seeing a decent quality recon that reflects what it looked like on transmission - it should be all our combined goals to get to that end, and anybody talented who can do decent CGI should be urged to contribute as much as they can. If Dan Hall isn't going to do it, out of self interest or disinterest, then collectively, we fans need to preserve the history of our show and push to get all the remaining missing episodes on as high quality recons as is humanly possible to do.

EVERY recon should be as good as Evil Of The Daleks.

And speaking as the person who saved more episodes from destruction than anyone else ever has, I feel I have earned the right to make this statement.
Another Ian Posted - 15 Jul 2009 : 21:23:56
quote:
Originally posted by Ian Levine

quote:
Originally posted by Another Ian

I'd rather like to see the MARCO POLO telesnaps colourised, so we could have the same recon then availible in both B&W and colour, it's typical of Dr Who to be half way in between.



Sometimes I just wonder why I bother.



Why did Barry Newbury bother taking colour photographs? Why did Loose Cannon bother assembling them all together? I'm not begrudging you the chance to watch it in Black and White, but it does look rather splendid in colour.

Some of us appreciate the effort. In fact I even had someone asking me about the '1 hour colour recon' yesterday who'd never expressed an interest in recons before, despite years of nagging! They were most surprised to hear it is the full 3 hour story that is in colour.

quote:
Originally posted by toxicspurge
OK, that makes like no sense!



A lot of work has already been put into colourising the photos, many were already in colour. I don't think it makes any sense in wasting all that hard work, all that colour. Yet there are also screen accurate images that obviously deserve to be used as part of the ultimate Marco Polo recon.

No I don't expect to see 400 odd telesnaps colourised (too much work) I'm just saying including the telesnaps at the expense of the colour is an odd situation to be in.
xylok b Posted - 15 Jul 2009 : 19:38:04
Celestial Toymaker, reign Of Terror, Massacre ?
toxicspurge Posted - 15 Jul 2009 : 01:39:30
quote:
Originally posted by Another Ian

I'd rather like to see the MARCO POLO telesnaps colourised, so we could have the same recon then availible in both B&W and colour, it's typical of Dr Who to be half way in between.




OK, that makes like no sense!
Ian Levine Posted - 15 Jul 2009 : 01:29:46
quote:
Originally posted by Another Ian

I'd rather like to see the MARCO POLO telesnaps colourised, so we could have the same recon then availible in both B&W and colour, it's typical of Dr Who to be half way in between.



Sometimes I just wonder why I bother.
the_jugulator Posted - 01 Jul 2009 : 21:12:44
quote:
Originally posted by Another Ian

I'd rather like to see the MARCO POLO telesnaps colourised, so we could have the same recon then availible in both B&W and colour, it's typical of Dr Who to be half way in between.


Soapy Mouth wash is on standby Mr Levine...
Another Ian Posted - 01 Jul 2009 : 15:35:15
I'd rather like to see the MARCO POLO telesnaps colourised, so we could have the same recon then availible in both B&W and colour, it's typical of Dr Who to be half way in between.
Daveyboy Posted - 01 Jul 2009 : 11:22:26
Could anyone please tell me which recons are currently being worked on, apart from Faceless Ones ?
I am personally looking forward to the release of Wheel or Web, the two LC have yet to attempt. :@)
Pip Posted - 28 Jun 2009 : 01:13:38
Personally, while the Loose Cannon colour reconstruction was a fantastic endeavour, and certainly one of the best thing they've done, it would be a crying shame for the only proper reconstruction to use the authentic tele-snaps to be the half-hour version on the DVD.

I would just hope that when Loose Cannon do a tele-snapped Marco Polo (which I hope is an inevitability), they keep the colour version available rather than 'delete' them, as they have done with their other remade recons.
Ian Levine Posted - 27 Jun 2009 : 22:04:52
quote:
Originally posted by darnall42
cant see the point of marco polo being redone though-this is one of my altime favorite loose cannon releases



There are no telesnaps in it. NONE. They turned up after the recon was made.

Plus the episodes were originally made in black and white - I have no desire to see them in colour.

Plus, if you watch the ridiculously short and inadequate cutdown version on "The Beginning" box set, you will see how AMAZINGLY superior both the picture quality and the audio both are, compared to the old Loose Cannon recon.

So, my dear Darnall42, you are ONE HUNDRED PERCENT WRONG on every count.
darnall42 Posted - 27 Jun 2009 : 20:45:14
I'd like to see a re-done Galaxy 4 now that we'll never get to see the cutdown version that was gonna be on the time meddler dvd.Although the recon itself is excellent,the soundtrack could be improved and maybe some CGI could be added (cant see the point of marco polo being redone though-this is one of my altime favorite loose cannon releases )
zeropolis79 Posted - 19 Jun 2009 : 01:42:19
quote:
Originally posted by Ian Levine

quote:
Originally posted by Another Ian

CG animated Daleks surely. I suppose the real question is will Ian let them use the production photographs.



There is nothing I would not do, and no lengths to which I would not go, to improve these wonderful essential recons - currently our only chance to visually enjoy the rich tapestry of Doctor Who's history.

I dream and yearn for the day when every, yes EVERY, recon is as good a quality as Evil Of The Daleks, and I pledge myself to do anything I can towards that end.

The people who spend so much time and energy creating them deserve medals of honour, and are the saviours of the history of our wonderful show.



HEar, hear. I did a recon of Moonbase and that'll never be as good as LC's version.
Ian Levine Posted - 19 Jun 2009 : 00:52:14
quote:
Originally posted by Russ

You are kidding aren't you?

I think they had Stevie Wonder clean them!



All joking aside, Power Of The Daleks could be every bit as good as Evil Of the Daleks when it eventually gets done properly.
RobW Posted - 18 Jun 2009 : 22:41:45
quote:
Originally posted by Russ

quote:
Originally posted by RobW

and the clean up Telesnaps from Power Of The Daleks Reconstructed,



You are kidding aren't you?

I think they had Stevie Wonder clean them!



Stevie Wonder is Power's biggest Fan, WOULD YOU DENY HIM THE CHANCE!

Now David Blunket is dying to work on the Telesnaps for the Highlanders, I can see it now on his expensive's form - Work on Doctor Who Recons £2000 claim.
toxicspurge Posted - 18 Jun 2009 : 22:17:30
LMFAO!
Russ Posted - 18 Jun 2009 : 22:11:06
quote:
Originally posted by RobW

and the clean up Telesnaps from Power Of The Daleks Reconstructed,



You are kidding aren't you?

I think they had Stevie Wonder clean them!
Ian Levine Posted - 18 Jun 2009 : 21:56:11
quote:
Originally posted by Another Ian

CG animated Daleks surely. I suppose the real question is will Ian let them use the production photographs.



There is nothing I would not do, and no lengths to which I would not go, to improve these wonderful essential recons - currently our only chance to visually enjoy the rich tapestry of Doctor Who's history.

I dream and yearn for the day when every, yes EVERY, recon is as good a quality as Evil Of The Daleks, and I pledge myself to do anything I can towards that end.

The people who spend so much time and energy creating them deserve medals of honour, and are the saviours of the history of our wonderful show.

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