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| toxicspurge |
Posted - 29 Apr 2008 : 23:43:39
So color me curious. I LOVE the LC recons! Yet, I suspect the majority of you guys don't have them.
I'm curious as to why?
Any insights would be appreciated! |
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| Russ |
Posted - 12 Nov 2008 : 13:33:24
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Originally posted by Selaboc
I'd have some new recons to watch. I haven't ordered any of the recons since they changed their ordering process, one of these days I'll have to get around to e-mailing my old dubber and see if he's still in the dubbing business as there's a few recons I need to get.
If you specify a dubsite you will get forwarded onto them anyway, the new system is mainly designed to share the load as evenly as possible and to help us spot inactive dubsites quickly, if you want someone in particular just ask for them |
| shireknight |
Posted - 12 Nov 2008 : 00:44:17
Cheers for the tip Selaboc I'm definitely going to follow this idea through and see what happens  |
| Selaboc |
Posted - 07 Nov 2008 : 15:55:14
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Originally posted by shireknight
Ive known about the recons for years but it seems so fiddly sending tapes off for the copiers to copy them and send them back again -you have to hope they get there and then hope they get back.
Now if there was an option where I just send Loose Cannon a couple of hundred pounds and they buy the tapes for me and send the entire set and then the new ones as and when they are made, that I'd happily do.
I assume there is no option to that though right?
In the olden days (back when you could select your dubber yourself rather than having LC select one for you) you could ask the dubber if they'd accept such an arrangement (you were still limited to 3 or 4 tapes at a time, rather than "the entire set").
My dubber was excellent about this. He would tell me how much the blank tapes and postage would be, I'd send him a check for that amount (actually I would add in a few coins tip, as I know I was asking him to go above and beyond with my request, even though he never asked for any gratuity), and a week or so later I'd have some new recons to watch. I haven't ordered any of the recons since they changed their ordering process, one of these days I'll have to get around to e-mailing my old dubber and see if he's still in the dubbing business as there's a few recons I need to get.
But anyway, It can't hurt to ask which ever dubber LC selects for you if they are willing to handle such an arrangement (for 3 or 4 tapes at a time obviously, the "whole set" is a bit much to be asking for in one go).
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| shireknight |
Posted - 07 Nov 2008 : 01:24:17
Ive known about the recons for years but it seems so fiddly sending tapes off for the copiers to copy them and send them back again -you have to hope they get there and then hope they get back.
Now if there was an option where I just send Loose Cannon a couple of hundred pounds and they buy the tapes for me and send the entire set and then the new ones as and when they are made, that I'd happily do.
I assume there is no option to that though right? |
| Mike Nuttall |
Posted - 16 Oct 2008 : 11:09:55
I must admit that until recently I hadn't seen a single LC recon, I always imagined that they'd be a bit dull.
Having watched The Highlanders, Myth Makers, Moonbase and Underwater Menace recently I'm just sorry I didn't make more of an effort to watch them sooner because I thought they were brilliant.
You can really tell that they've been put together by people who genuinely love doing them, and the attention to detail is astounding.
If you thought you'd find them a bit dull, think again and give them a go.
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| Octofishpie |
Posted - 03 Sep 2008 : 21:12:31
quote:
Originally posted by Frankymole
I have approaching half the LC recons and am more than happy to send my 1st generation VHS's on to a good home, so long as recipient pays postage...
LC17 Marco Polo
LC21 The Ice Warriors
LC22 Fury from the Deep
LC23 The Underwater Menace
LC24 The Macra Terror *REVISED*
LC25 The Abominable Snowmen
LC27 The Highlanders *REVISED*
LC14 The Crusade
LC15 The Enemy of the World
LC16 The Massacre [of St. Bartholomew's Eve]
LC28 The Space Pirates *REVISED*
LC29 The Savages *REVISED*
If your offer still stands and you're a PAL type person, then I would be interested in some of these.
Rob |
| toxicspurge |
Posted - 03 Sep 2008 : 00:08:51
In the US, people are practically giving them away. |
| kajaboy |
Posted - 02 Sep 2008 : 23:24:05
I got a back up VCR at boot sale for £2. I still have not got around to getting the recons though. |
| Russ |
Posted - 02 Sep 2008 : 23:15:51
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Originally posted by TheReverendMrMagister
quote:
Originally posted by The Black Guardian
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Originally posted by TheReverendMrMagister
I can't get any recons because I have no VHS player.
Do you know any Doctor Who fans......
Actually, no. In fact, in 42 years I have only ever met one other Who fan, at uni. My only communication with fans has been this internet connection I got last year. I dabbled with Oh! Gee! first until I realised they were mainly insane.
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I do understand why people don't want to buy a VHS player just for recons but what do they cost these days £30-£40? As the recons are free i don't think thats an unreasonable amount to spend then just transfer them onto DVD.
So that'll be a VHS player AND a DVD recorder, then? Not gonna happen, unfortunately.
Well i think the majority of people have a DVD recorder these days, however if not just watch the VHS version until/if you do, again a cost of £40 or so is still, in my view, well worth it (assuming recons are your thing of course) |
| toxicspurge |
Posted - 02 Sep 2008 : 22:17:57
As you wish. |
| TheReverendMrMagister |
Posted - 02 Sep 2008 : 19:51:18
quote:
Originally posted by The Black Guardian
quote:
Originally posted by TheReverendMrMagister
I can't get any recons because I have no VHS player.
Do you know any Doctor Who fans......
Actually, no. In fact, in 42 years I have only ever met one other Who fan, at uni. My only communication with fans has been this internet connection I got last year. I dabbled with Oh! Gee! first until I realised they were mainly insane.
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I do understand why people don't want to buy a VHS player just for recons but what do they cost these days £30-£40? As the recons are free i don't think thats an unreasonable amount to spend then just transfer them onto DVD.
So that'll be a VHS player AND a DVD recorder, then? Not gonna happen, unfortunately. |
| Russ |
Posted - 02 Sep 2008 : 18:50:22
Well its all a percentages game but as Biggers points out, a caption would be unlikely to keep things at bay. We do our best to avoid interfering with official BBC products and have hopefully (along with the JV team before) increased interest in the missing episodes and encouraged people to buy soundtracks and the like which they may not have otherwise.
I do understand why people don't want to buy a VHS player just for recons but what do they cost these days £30-£40? As the recons are free i don't think thats an unreasonable amount to spend then just transfer them onto DVD. |
| toxicspurge |
Posted - 02 Sep 2008 : 14:49:03
That's an excellent point. |
| Adam |
Posted - 02 Sep 2008 : 14:35:15
In a way Loose Cannon actually help to support and protect BBC products, even advertising them. It's because they are very careful about that they use, not including released episodes with the recons and so on, so people go out and buy the official products to compliment them. If the BBC were to clamp down and stop Loose Cannon from making recons, I suspect there would be more recons like Elaphe spring up. These utilise the narrated and official soundtracks and include copies of episodes officially released from Lost in Time. If people could get them all in one bundle from a torrent site, which the BBC cannot do much about, I doubt they will go to the cost of buying the BCC CD and DVD as well. Especially as they would have no alternative (if LC was to stop).
P.S - I meant to add, being the show that it is, with the increase in technology, recons will always be made and people will get them somehow.
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| toxicspurge |
Posted - 02 Sep 2008 : 14:22:37
There ya go then. |
| Richard Bignell |
Posted - 02 Sep 2008 : 13:47:43
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Originally posted by scullyluster
I think a simple slide caption at the start of each reconstructed episode (asking viewers to support the official BBC releases and pleading for the return of old episodes) would keep the BBC off their back if they switched to DVD/online distribution.
Believe me - it wouldn't.
Richard |
| scullyluster |
Posted - 02 Sep 2008 : 00:03:23
quote:
Originally posted by chap with wings
Unfortunately, again, its the format for me, I dont own a VHS any more.
Same problem here with me too. If Loose Cannon insist on not distributing via DVDs or online downloads then I don't know what they'll do as people slowly ditch their VHS machines.
I think a simple slide caption at the start of each reconstructed episode (asking viewers to support the official BBC releases and pleading for the return of old episodes) would keep the BBC off their back if they switched to DVD/online distribution. It's the pirating of OFFICIAL releases that would worry the BBC.
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| Russ |
Posted - 14 Aug 2008 : 23:02:10
quote:
Originally posted by 2ndDoctorRules
I haven't been getting recons lately, because recently was my first try. I ordered The Macra Terror and The Power Of The Daleks. First, they took 3 months to come. Secondly, I was sent the old version of Macra Terror instead of the revised one, and thirdly, the Power Of The Daleks had very choppy and distorted sound. I may order a few newer ones, as Macra and PowerDaleks are older recons.
Well some of the dubsites tapes of older recons will have certainly had some wear over the years and if this type of thing is pointed out the dubsite can usually get a new copy from the masters, dubsites don't usually watch the videos as they are copied so dud copies do get out there and people often don't konw what the standard should be, certainly newer ones should generally resemble a shop bought VHS
Also dub site VHS's are under continual use and do sometime create problems and people often send used VHS tapes which we aren't supposed to allow as crap on them can clog the heads up but people still do it |
| toxicspurge |
Posted - 14 Aug 2008 : 21:26:28
They had some issues a while back, but I believe they're all sorted out now. I believe pretty much everyone is getting quick turnaround from the dubbers. |
| 2ndDoctorRules |
Posted - 14 Aug 2008 : 20:43:33
I haven't been getting recons lately, because recently was my first try. I ordered The Macra Terror and The Power Of The Daleks. First, they took 3 months to come. Secondly, I was sent the old version of Macra Terror instead of the revised one, and thirdly, the Power Of The Daleks had very choppy and distorted sound. I may order a few newer ones, as Macra and PowerDaleks are older recons. |
| Russ |
Posted - 07 Jul 2008 : 22:31:37
quote:
Originally posted by Wilmster
It'd be sad if anyone (BBC or not) gave you any hassle for these on any format, because you're adding to something and not taking away.
Indeed, but we certainly don't want to interfere with official releases of things like CD's which is why they are as far away from that as possible |
| Wilmster |
Posted - 07 Jul 2008 : 22:23:00
It'd be sad if anyone (BBC or not) gave you any hassle for these on any format, because you're adding to something and not taking away. |
| Russ |
Posted - 07 Jul 2008 : 22:15:30
quote:
Originally posted by Wilmster
I've no VHS player any more either. Would love to see some - I hear that the quality these days is really impressive. I can't really recall the argument for only producing these on VHS, but I suspect/remember that it was because of the copyrights??? Were the BBC happy to turn a blind eye to this when they were doing their own VHS range, because the two were running in tandem weren't they?
On those lines, the BBC are less likely to bother if its in a degradable format, that doesn't make it safe but safer |
| Wilmster |
Posted - 07 Jul 2008 : 22:03:07
I've no VHS player any more either. Would love to see some - I hear that the quality these days is really impressive. I can't really recall the argument for only producing these on VHS, but I suspect/remember that it was because of the copyrights??? Were the BBC happy to turn a blind eye to this when they were doing their own VHS range, because the two were running in tandem weren't they? |
| The Black Guardian |
Posted - 07 Jul 2008 : 03:50:47
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Originally posted by Russ
Well it isn't a region code on VHS its the format, most UK players do play both PAL and NTSC but most US ones are NTSC only
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I wish I had known that. I used to buy the VHS tapes direct from the UK in the early 90s. (Daleks - The Early Years. Cybermen - The Early Years. The Invasion 2,3,5,6,7,8. The Ice Warriors 1,4,5,6. The Tenth Planet 1,2,3.) I had to get each tape converted to 525 format just to play them over here. I was charged $25 each time for the first hour and an additional $10 for each hour after that on each tape. It was like buying two tapes for the price of one. |
| Russ |
Posted - 06 Jul 2008 : 19:39:52
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Originally posted by The Black Guardian
quote:
Originally posted by toxicspurge
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Originally posted by TheReverendMrMagister
I can't get any recons because I have no VHS player.
Over here, people are practically giving VHS players away free.
Wouldn't that conflict with another countries region code? It is possible to get around the codes on some DVD players, but is it possible with VHS players?
Well it isn't a region code on VHS its the format, most UK players do play both PAL and NTSC but most US ones are NTSC only |
| The Black Guardian |
Posted - 06 Jul 2008 : 17:14:05
quote:
Originally posted by toxicspurge
quote:
Originally posted by TheReverendMrMagister
I can't get any recons because I have no VHS player.
Over here, people are practically giving VHS players away free.
Wouldn't that conflict with another countries region code? It is possible to get around the codes on some DVD players, but is it possible with VHS players? |
| Russ |
Posted - 06 Jul 2008 : 13:53:57
quote:
Originally posted by joenirvana
Does anyone know if the quality of teh recons are good? i mean if there tape copies wont they be generated?
Newer recons are about the standard of a shop bought VHS, older ones may be more multi gen.
Obviously this depends on the quality of the source material, something like Space Pirates which was mostly sourced from screen grabs of a dvd of a 35mm film print is going to look better than the mostly telesnap based stories such as Savages
They certainly aren't murky and difficult to make out as they could be in the old days |
| toxicspurge |
Posted - 06 Jul 2008 : 13:44:59
quote:
Originally posted by TheReverendMrMagister
I can't get any recons because I have no VHS player.
Over here, people are practically giving VHS players away free. |
| joenirvana |
Posted - 06 Jul 2008 : 13:14:05
Does anyone know if the quality of teh recons are good? i mean if there tape copies wont they be generated? |
