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toxicspurge Posted - 29 Apr 2008 : 23:43:39
So color me curious. I LOVE the LC recons! Yet, I suspect the majority of you guys don't have them.

I'm curious as to why?

Any insights would be appreciated!
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selektadan_i Posted - 07 Dec 2008 : 18:19:41
Ignore that last post, I was at the bottom of page one and did not see there was three pages LOL
selektadan_i Posted - 07 Dec 2008 : 18:09:39
Do I hear the sound of church bells?
Russ Posted - 05 Dec 2008 : 19:05:31
quote:
Originally posted by Daniel Wilcox

Yeah it was some time after The Daleks' Masterplan came out.



Well if you give it a go now you will get an answer
Daniel Wilcox Posted - 05 Dec 2008 : 18:56:32
Yeah it was some time after The Daleks' Masterplan came out.
Russ Posted - 05 Dec 2008 : 18:12:44
quote:
Originally posted by Daniel Wilcox

Because none of the dubsites I have contacted ever emailed back!



Well it must have been a while ago cos we reformed the system a year or so ago, all e mails come directly to me now, i then forward them to the dubsite, the system was altered to prevent exactly the problem you mention
Daniel Wilcox Posted - 05 Dec 2008 : 17:42:26
Because none of the dubsites I have contacted ever emailed back!
toxicspurge Posted - 05 Dec 2008 : 16:58:26
quote:
Originally posted by Russ

quote:
Originally posted by Frankymole
I have approaching half the LC recons and am more than happy to send my 1st generation VHS's on to a good home, so long as recipient pays postage! They are cluttering up the space needed for a new baby, and I transferred them to my recorder's hard drive recently. So if you want any of the VHS tapes, reply here. I have the following (plus may be able to offer others, like JV ones or older LC ones, if you let me know):

LC17 Marco Polo
LC21 The Ice Warriors
LC22 Fury from the Deep
LC23 The Underwater Menace
LC24 The Macra Terror *REVISED*
LC25 The Abominable Snowmen
LC27 The Highlanders *REVISED*
LC14 The Crusade
LC15 The Enemy of the World
LC16 The Massacre [of St. Bartholomew's Eve]
LC28 The Space Pirates *REVISED*
LC29 The Savages *REVISED*

Well it saves you having to send off a tape and label!

Hoping to get "Daleks' Master Plan" soon.



You keep your baby on a shelf!!!!!



Better on a shelf than in a corner.

NOBODY puts baby in a corner!
Russ Posted - 05 Dec 2008 : 15:26:31
quote:
Originally posted by Frankymole
I have approaching half the LC recons and am more than happy to send my 1st generation VHS's on to a good home, so long as recipient pays postage! They are cluttering up the space needed for a new baby, and I transferred them to my recorder's hard drive recently. So if you want any of the VHS tapes, reply here. I have the following (plus may be able to offer others, like JV ones or older LC ones, if you let me know):

LC17 Marco Polo
LC21 The Ice Warriors
LC22 Fury from the Deep
LC23 The Underwater Menace
LC24 The Macra Terror *REVISED*
LC25 The Abominable Snowmen
LC27 The Highlanders *REVISED*
LC14 The Crusade
LC15 The Enemy of the World
LC16 The Massacre [of St. Bartholomew's Eve]
LC28 The Space Pirates *REVISED*
LC29 The Savages *REVISED*

Well it saves you having to send off a tape and label!

Hoping to get "Daleks' Master Plan" soon.



You keep your baby on a shelf!!!!!
Russ Posted - 12 Nov 2008 : 13:33:24
quote:
Originally posted by Selaboc

I'd have some new recons to watch. I haven't ordered any of the recons since they changed their ordering process, one of these days I'll have to get around to e-mailing my old dubber and see if he's still in the dubbing business as there's a few recons I need to get.


If you specify a dubsite you will get forwarded onto them anyway, the new system is mainly designed to share the load as evenly as possible and to help us spot inactive dubsites quickly, if you want someone in particular just ask for them
shireknight Posted - 12 Nov 2008 : 00:44:17
Cheers for the tip Selaboc I'm definitely going to follow this idea through and see what happens
Selaboc Posted - 07 Nov 2008 : 15:55:14
quote:
Originally posted by shireknight

Ive known about the recons for years but it seems so fiddly sending tapes off for the copiers to copy them and send them back again -you have to hope they get there and then hope they get back.

Now if there was an option where I just send Loose Cannon a couple of hundred pounds and they buy the tapes for me and send the entire set and then the new ones as and when they are made, that I'd happily do.

I assume there is no option to that though right?



In the olden days (back when you could select your dubber yourself rather than having LC select one for you) you could ask the dubber if they'd accept such an arrangement (you were still limited to 3 or 4 tapes at a time, rather than "the entire set").

My dubber was excellent about this. He would tell me how much the blank tapes and postage would be, I'd send him a check for that amount (actually I would add in a few coins tip, as I know I was asking him to go above and beyond with my request, even though he never asked for any gratuity), and a week or so later I'd have some new recons to watch. I haven't ordered any of the recons since they changed their ordering process, one of these days I'll have to get around to e-mailing my old dubber and see if he's still in the dubbing business as there's a few recons I need to get.

But anyway, It can't hurt to ask which ever dubber LC selects for you if they are willing to handle such an arrangement (for 3 or 4 tapes at a time obviously, the "whole set" is a bit much to be asking for in one go).
shireknight Posted - 07 Nov 2008 : 01:24:17
Ive known about the recons for years but it seems so fiddly sending tapes off for the copiers to copy them and send them back again -you have to hope they get there and then hope they get back.

Now if there was an option where I just send Loose Cannon a couple of hundred pounds and they buy the tapes for me and send the entire set and then the new ones as and when they are made, that I'd happily do.

I assume there is no option to that though right?
Mike Nuttall Posted - 16 Oct 2008 : 11:09:55
I must admit that until recently I hadn't seen a single LC recon, I always imagined that they'd be a bit dull.

Having watched The Highlanders, Myth Makers, Moonbase and Underwater Menace recently I'm just sorry I didn't make more of an effort to watch them sooner because I thought they were brilliant.

You can really tell that they've been put together by people who genuinely love doing them, and the attention to detail is astounding.

If you thought you'd find them a bit dull, think again and give them a go.
Octofishpie Posted - 03 Sep 2008 : 21:12:31
quote:
Originally posted by Frankymole
I have approaching half the LC recons and am more than happy to send my 1st generation VHS's on to a good home, so long as recipient pays postage...
LC17 Marco Polo
LC21 The Ice Warriors
LC22 Fury from the Deep
LC23 The Underwater Menace
LC24 The Macra Terror *REVISED*
LC25 The Abominable Snowmen
LC27 The Highlanders *REVISED*
LC14 The Crusade
LC15 The Enemy of the World
LC16 The Massacre [of St. Bartholomew's Eve]
LC28 The Space Pirates *REVISED*
LC29 The Savages *REVISED*



If your offer still stands and you're a PAL type person, then I would be interested in some of these.

Rob
toxicspurge Posted - 03 Sep 2008 : 00:08:51
In the US, people are practically giving them away.
kajaboy Posted - 02 Sep 2008 : 23:24:05
I got a back up VCR at boot sale for £2. I still have not got around to getting the recons though.
Russ Posted - 02 Sep 2008 : 23:15:51
quote:
Originally posted by TheReverendMrMagister

quote:
Originally posted by The Black Guardian

quote:
Originally posted by TheReverendMrMagister

I can't get any recons because I have no VHS player.


Do you know any Doctor Who fans......

Actually, no. In fact, in 42 years I have only ever met one other Who fan, at uni. My only communication with fans has been this internet connection I got last year. I dabbled with Oh! Gee! first until I realised they were mainly insane.

quote:
I do understand why people don't want to buy a VHS player just for recons but what do they cost these days £30-£40? As the recons are free i don't think thats an unreasonable amount to spend then just transfer them onto DVD.


So that'll be a VHS player AND a DVD recorder, then? Not gonna happen, unfortunately.



Well i think the majority of people have a DVD recorder these days, however if not just watch the VHS version until/if you do, again a cost of £40 or so is still, in my view, well worth it (assuming recons are your thing of course)
toxicspurge Posted - 02 Sep 2008 : 22:17:57
As you wish.
TheReverendMrMagister Posted - 02 Sep 2008 : 19:51:18
quote:
Originally posted by The Black Guardian

quote:
Originally posted by TheReverendMrMagister

I can't get any recons because I have no VHS player.


Do you know any Doctor Who fans......

Actually, no. In fact, in 42 years I have only ever met one other Who fan, at uni. My only communication with fans has been this internet connection I got last year. I dabbled with Oh! Gee! first until I realised they were mainly insane.

quote:
I do understand why people don't want to buy a VHS player just for recons but what do they cost these days £30-£40? As the recons are free i don't think thats an unreasonable amount to spend then just transfer them onto DVD.


So that'll be a VHS player AND a DVD recorder, then? Not gonna happen, unfortunately.
Russ Posted - 02 Sep 2008 : 18:50:22
Well its all a percentages game but as Biggers points out, a caption would be unlikely to keep things at bay. We do our best to avoid interfering with official BBC products and have hopefully (along with the JV team before) increased interest in the missing episodes and encouraged people to buy soundtracks and the like which they may not have otherwise.

I do understand why people don't want to buy a VHS player just for recons but what do they cost these days £30-£40? As the recons are free i don't think thats an unreasonable amount to spend then just transfer them onto DVD.
toxicspurge Posted - 02 Sep 2008 : 14:49:03
That's an excellent point.
Adam Posted - 02 Sep 2008 : 14:35:15
In a way Loose Cannon actually help to support and protect BBC products, even advertising them. It's because they are very careful about that they use, not including released episodes with the recons and so on, so people go out and buy the official products to compliment them. If the BBC were to clamp down and stop Loose Cannon from making recons, I suspect there would be more recons like Elaphe spring up. These utilise the narrated and official soundtracks and include copies of episodes officially released from Lost in Time. If people could get them all in one bundle from a torrent site, which the BBC cannot do much about, I doubt they will go to the cost of buying the BCC CD and DVD as well. Especially as they would have no alternative (if LC was to stop).

P.S - I meant to add, being the show that it is, with the increase in technology, recons will always be made and people will get them somehow.
toxicspurge Posted - 02 Sep 2008 : 14:22:37
There ya go then.
Richard Bignell Posted - 02 Sep 2008 : 13:47:43
quote:
Originally posted by scullyluster
I think a simple slide caption at the start of each reconstructed episode (asking viewers to support the official BBC releases and pleading for the return of old episodes) would keep the BBC off their back if they switched to DVD/online distribution.

Believe me - it wouldn't.

Richard
scullyluster Posted - 02 Sep 2008 : 00:03:23
quote:
Originally posted by chap with wings

Unfortunately, again, its the format for me, I dont own a VHS any more.

Same problem here with me too. If Loose Cannon insist on not distributing via DVDs or online downloads then I don't know what they'll do as people slowly ditch their VHS machines.

I think a simple slide caption at the start of each reconstructed episode (asking viewers to support the official BBC releases and pleading for the return of old episodes) would keep the BBC off their back if they switched to DVD/online distribution. It's the pirating of OFFICIAL releases that would worry the BBC.



Russ Posted - 14 Aug 2008 : 23:02:10
quote:
Originally posted by 2ndDoctorRules

I haven't been getting recons lately, because recently was my first try. I ordered The Macra Terror and The Power Of The Daleks. First, they took 3 months to come. Secondly, I was sent the old version of Macra Terror instead of the revised one, and thirdly, the Power Of The Daleks had very choppy and distorted sound. I may order a few newer ones, as Macra and PowerDaleks are older recons.



Well some of the dubsites tapes of older recons will have certainly had some wear over the years and if this type of thing is pointed out the dubsite can usually get a new copy from the masters, dubsites don't usually watch the videos as they are copied so dud copies do get out there and people often don't konw what the standard should be, certainly newer ones should generally resemble a shop bought VHS

Also dub site VHS's are under continual use and do sometime create problems and people often send used VHS tapes which we aren't supposed to allow as crap on them can clog the heads up but people still do it
toxicspurge Posted - 14 Aug 2008 : 21:26:28
They had some issues a while back, but I believe they're all sorted out now. I believe pretty much everyone is getting quick turnaround from the dubbers.
2ndDoctorRules Posted - 14 Aug 2008 : 20:43:33
I haven't been getting recons lately, because recently was my first try. I ordered The Macra Terror and The Power Of The Daleks. First, they took 3 months to come. Secondly, I was sent the old version of Macra Terror instead of the revised one, and thirdly, the Power Of The Daleks had very choppy and distorted sound. I may order a few newer ones, as Macra and PowerDaleks are older recons.
Russ Posted - 07 Jul 2008 : 22:31:37
quote:
Originally posted by Wilmster

It'd be sad if anyone (BBC or not) gave you any hassle for these on any format, because you're adding to something and not taking away.



Indeed, but we certainly don't want to interfere with official releases of things like CD's which is why they are as far away from that as possible
Wilmster Posted - 07 Jul 2008 : 22:23:00
It'd be sad if anyone (BBC or not) gave you any hassle for these on any format, because you're adding to something and not taking away.

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